RoS they're obviously better then they were before.

Kylo by contrast looked like he had to exercise some effort to collapse that temple entrance.

Obi-wan did held his own but that was against a mentally unstable Anakin.

Considering Kylo's potential and the fact that he trained for thirteen years under Luke and then six more under Snoke, his skills (and Rey's, since they were evenly matched in RoS) should also be far greater.Can’t wait for Rey and Kylo to start getting more comic and book feats to consolidate their superiority so the Vine stops underrating them so much.What the hell were people 2 months ago talking about? this isn't Anakin when he first Fought Dooku, he knows how to defend against force lighting.force Lighting only works on The Anakin that first Fought Dooku...not Mid Season Clone wars Anakin and clearly not going to work on ROTS Anakin.Anakin at 23 was said to be more formidable than ROTS Sidious. He should be able to beat Rey and kylo.Taron Malicos.

I can’t even really remember if they showed much telekinesis for the duo aside from like summoning small objects or sending Grevious flying.Sequel Saber skill is nothing compared to these two. Ben’s not Luke level, Ben gets stomped by ROTS Annie. Also, ren has no defense against lightning. He has raw power but his reflexes and force powers were still weaker than Yoda and Sidious at the time as well. Kylo is stronger than Vader by leaps let alone Anakin. Taron has shown he’s a great deal above the likes of the inquisitors. He then begins beating Kylo with his own Rey through TK. If Anakin was in the right frame of mind he would have killed Obi-wan.Yeah this is pretty much fact, though it is still impressive on Obi-Wan's part.Even with Anakin's conflict inside, team one should have the upper hand I would go with Anakin and Obi-wan due to better teamwork, more experience, and probably better duelists overall. Together they one-shot.Their Force feats simply blow Taron's out of the water. Rey and Kylo stomp.

Similarly, who you were trained by isn't a guarantee of great skill, since, after all, a person can be a bad student even if they have a great teacher. I'd argue saber skill should still be comparable however.How?

Why does this thread even exist ? 0. Potential only matters if you realize it. Ben is solidly at least dooku level. There is no way to compare their saber skill by feats, since they never faced a common enemy.

plus...Anakin was very conflicted with his deeds he didn't wish this he just had to do it for power which it stated he got massively more powerful. He was already on their level. Nope. Rey solostomps. Taron is low master tier, either soloThey were thinking of Rey and Kylo c. TLJ, and I'd actually argue that Taron can beat those versions of them, at least individually.

My argument still stands, since such a line doesn't exist. Bear in mind he also did this one-handed while simultaneously lifting and then pinning with TK Cal (who is himself a decent telekinetic). Rey defeated ~8 of the emperor's guard, who are significantly above your average clone. Dooku held Yoda off for nearly a minute and Yoda nearly beat Palpatine.Wait, let's see... Obi-Wan killed Grievious, a Jedi murderer, Maul, and held his own against Anakin.Obi-wan did held his own but that was against a mentally unstable Anakin. Kylo is stronger than Vader by leaps let alone Anakin. Taron is low master tier, either soloWhat the hell were people 2 months ago talking about?

This is just movie feats guys you gotta only use the movie feats. He could fight with one lightsaber while the other was suspended in the air. If you're talking about those fodder JMs that got order 66'd you can disappear with the foolishness already.